19 Nov
2008
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Have You Heard? Lawsuit’s the Word!

Got the following in my email just a few moments ago… sems to be gaining a little traction, but a brief google news search yielded nothing

The Honorable Associate Justice Stephen G. Breyer
United States Supreme Court
One First Street, NE
Washington, D.C. 20543

Dear Honorable Associate Justice Breyer:

I am writing to ask you to uphold our Constitution by verifying the eligibility of Barack Obama to be President of the United States. There is much speculation and the only way for the country to feel secure that he is eligible is for you to settle this matter.

Please request Barack Obama to present his birth certificate to the courts for verification.
Please also request any citizenship papers showing he acquired United States citizenship when he moved from Indonesia back to Hawaii.

State lawsuits have been filed in WA, FL, NC, CO, CA, OH, CT, GA, TX and MI. Related lawsuits in HI, US District. There are Supreme Court lawsuits in PA and NJ. Obama has yet to release birth certificate or citizenship documents (as well as others).

Thank you for your honorable service to our country and for upholding our constitution in these trying times.

Sincerely,

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9 Comments

  • This must be true, since it is being pushed in CA by Alan Keyes, who is in no way at all insane.

    This whole thing is ridiculous.

    Since when do you have to reapply to be a citizen after living abroad for four years?

    From FactCheck.org:

    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

    and PolitFact:
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/13/obamas-birth-certificate/

  • What scares me the most… His mother’s name was Stanley?

  • Yes, it appears to be a situation of using a last name as a first name – gone horribly wrong. For very understandable reasons, she went by her middle name.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham

  • There is the potential for a legitimate case here.

    In 1961 when Barack Obama was born, Kenya was a British colony. His father was Kenyan – meaning, according to the British Nationality Act of 1948, he was a British subject. If his parent’s marriage was legitimate, this would make Barack Obama, Jr. a British subject by birth, through patrilineal transfer.

    If this is true, it means Obama had dual loyalties at birth. While if he was born in Hawaii he was by law a U.S. Citizen, if his legitimate father was Kenyan then he was also a British subject.

    The U.S. Supreme Court has never yet had the opportunity to rule on whether this would meet the “natural born citizen” criterion in Article 2 of the Constitution. This is a real legal dilemma that poses a potential electoral crisis, as evidenced by the fact that the Court has scheduled a full conference of all 9 justices to meet December 5th to determine if at least one of the suits should go to oral argument. http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm

    - Dirtyrottenvarmint

  • The McCain thing, on the other hand, was completely frivolous. U.S. Code goes on at length regarding the various legal means by which a child born overseas to U.S. citizens can have “natural born” status, including: parents maintain U.S. residence (check), parents are only overseas for a limited time (check), parent is overseas at the orders of or in service to the U.S. government (check check)…

    - Dirtyrottenvarmint

  • Jen Saunders,

    Be careful of letting other people do your research for you. While the existence or lack thereof of Obama’s HI birth certificate is, as mentioned, not material, none of the links you provide give any “evidence”. They are merely hearsay. The “Certification of Live Birth” posted by PolitiFact is a copy, not the original. FactCheck.org mentions this explicitly and shows a photo of the back of this _copy_, which is stamped with a date in 2007.

    Factcheck.org, Snopes.com, and the like are neither “nonpartisan” nor “independent”. Like any other organization, these fact-checking organizations are comprised of individuals who have political beliefs, partisan leanings, divided loyalties, and sometimes just the occasional bad day. They are not a substitute for using your own brain.

    - Dirtyrottenvarmint

  • Jen,

    Factcheck has massive donations by the same place as the Brady campaign gets their money, Annaberg foundation. It’s also where Obama used to work.

    Here’s the deal.

    1. His mom was 19 or so when she had him. But the law was she needed to be a citizen for X years after the age of 16. So by 2 years she missed the technicality. 2 years later the law was changed to as long as 1 parent is a citizen not caring about the above.

    2. Hawaii allowed people to report the birth. So he may have been born abroad and it just report to Hawaii.

    3. The birth certificate presented was a fake.

    4. Did he register for the Secret Service. If he wasn’t a citizen he wouldn’t have to.

    Do I think the above should disqualify him, no. However the fact he would hide it bothers me.

  • OMG, you are so right, I should totally believe a couple of anonymous conspiracy theorists over them.

    Instead of spending time on silly lawsuits, the GOP should focus on real issues, like raising awareness of the card check law that the Democrats are trying to spin as “employee choice”.

  • Oh My! Here’s the deal, Hawaii was a US state when Obama was born, it didn’t matter who his parents were as long as he was born on US soil, he was a citizen. You cannot lose your US citizenship unless you commit treason or relinquish it after the age of 18. Even if parents apply for citizenship for a child in another country the child still retains US citizenship and agaion, can only lose it if he/she renounces citizenship after attaining the age of 18.

    Second, many children are entitled to dual citizenship at birth. Most children of European nationals born in the US are entitled to citizenship in their parent’s country at birth. This is still true for Germany. The US permits dual citizenship, and the Constitution only requires a President be natural born, there is no prohibition against dual citizenship.

    McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone which was not US land, so Rick is right that this would have been an issue if he was elected. In fact Ted Olson, the former Solicitor General, was asked to look into the matter, and though he believed that McCain would be considered a “natural born” citizen, his research was not definitive. US Code did grant McCain citizenship at birth, but there is a huge difference between the Constitution and Code. You can’t legislate around the Constitution.

    That being said, the first question is standing, as no one even knows who would have standing to actually bring a suit.