Democratic Victory Strategy of the Week
ByThe Democrats will try pretty much anything to regain control of at least one chamber of Congress this Fall. Last month they tried to capitalize on people’s disgust over the war in Iraq. Well, unfortunately, people are not as disgusted as Democrats first believed now that Saddam is on trial and a new democratically elected government is in formation.
Two weeks ago it was the “culture of corruption” that the Republicans supposedly created with their buddy Jack Abramoff. But that backfired too when it was revealed that not only are Senate Democrats equally complicit in their dealings with Abramoff, but the public is apathetic enough about corruption in Washington, that this latest scandal is unlikely to affect voter turnout or behavior in November.
Now, the latest kitchen sink the Dems are throwing at the GOP to gain Congressional seats in November focuses on the civil liberties argument. But, as Ron Brownstein argues in today’s LA Times, arguing civil liberties in time of war is a risky proposition. Anyone who argues liberty over safety in wartime risks coming off as weak. And let’s face it, the Dems can be accused of many things, but being tough will never be one of them.
Personally, I’m looking forward to their winning midterm election strategy for next week. Perhaps it may even involve men from Mars.
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9 Comments
January 25th, 2006 at 9:32 pm
Meghan,
As someone who loves to play devils advocate I appreciate your comments, though not the name calling, it’s a little childish.
Since you point out Clinton and wiretapping, I would like to point out that Clinton has recognized doing it during his administration, though he also admitted to getting a court order at least three days after the spying. I don’t know about you, but whether you get approval three days after you spy on me or never get approval, I don’t see the difference. Personally I agreed with both presidents doing it.
Also speaking of Clinton, remember it was Clinton who started the use of Extraordinary Renditions, which for those that don’t know, is the shipping of potential terrorists to other countries to be interrogated. Again I agree with Bush doing it and when Clinton did it.
I was wondering however if you complained when Clinton did it.
January 25th, 2006 at 9:42 pm
How about checks and balances and following the law. Clinton followed the law nimnod and there was someone looking things over, even if it was retroactive.
Bush will get his due. Papers are getting leaked information on warrantless wiretaps and abuses and they will be published soon.
Extraordinary renditions sucks no matter who is president. I condemn both. Bush is the king of torture along with Cheney, VP for Torture. Abu Ghraib, waterboarding nutjobs. He’ll rot in hell.
This blog is wingnut headquarters. Get your facts straight misogynists.
January 25th, 2006 at 9:56 pm
Uh, my facts are straight. It’s a matter of how you want to interpret them. I’m not concerned that President Bush is going to be interested in listening to me speak to my grandmother and you are.
I personally think that the only people who should be concerned about being listened to are those committing crimes. I have faith that my government won’t waste their time listening to my useless information, you obviously think they want to listen to yours.
January 25th, 2006 at 10:22 pm
Actually, I read allot of history including some on the Soviet Union with the most recent being “Gulag” by respected historian Anne Applebaum.
Yes unchecked actions can lead to abuse but are we really talking about abuse here? Do you really think this is some epidemic problem where the government his sitting there listening to every waking move we make. You mention Soviet-era Russia, which is what Gulag is about. I don’t know if you’ve had the pleasure of reading it but I can assure you that there is not even a speck of a connection. The soviet-era saw 18 million people sent to camps with almost 5 million not returning. They whisked people away in the middle of the night, how many neighbors, friends, colleagues or family members do you know that have been taken away in the middle of the night? The fact that you and I can even have a blog to rant about whatever we want is an example of the differences.
I’m not saying you have to like what the current administration is doing but to make ridiculous comparisons is an insult to people like me who have Hungarian ancestors (don’t let the Vertucci name fool you, I’m half Italian and half Hungarian) who escaped the Soviet regime to come to this country. My grandmother will tell you about repression and it’s not this.
January 25th, 2006 at 10:31 pm
You’re naive. Slippery slope. Look at Nixon and wiretaps. It leads to bad things.
Abuse of power. Breaking the law. Get a fricken warrant and follow the law. It’s simple and lawful. He’s abusing power. He lied about Iraq, unfettered wiretapping is ripe for more lies.
What happened to Libertarian Reublicans. Thankfully I know some who hate Bush. You’re all knee-jerk supporters. Unprincipled wankers beholden to your dear leader.
January 25th, 2006 at 10:43 pm
Meghan,
I really do appreciate your comments, it does get a bit tiring preaching to the choir.
We will just have to agree to disagree. I just hope you realize that by you being able to complain about it, protest about it, curse about it and most importantly get to read about it means that it’s not the epidemic or problem you think it is. When the day comes that you or I can’t do any of the above is when we’ll know it truly is a problem for concern.
The fact that we have people in our government like Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer who practically say the same things you do, is proof that this country is anything but a dictatorship.
I mentioned my Hungarian roots. I think if you actually went to somewhere like Cuba and tried to do all the complaining you are doing know you would get to see what real repression is.
Thanks again for your opinion.
January 26th, 2006 at 2:02 pm
Bush has said many times “if you’re not talking to a member of Al Qaeda then you have nothing to worry about”……..Does this Meghan not understand that? Also, nobody has came out with evidence that these wiretappings were used against them for reasons other than talking to a terrorist. What kind of “abuses” is she worrying about? It seems like the typical ranting and raving with no substance.
January 26th, 2006 at 3:21 pm
Nick and Mike, thanks for defending my honor. And Meghan, thanks for just being you. Your posts always put a smile on my face.
My analysis is based on poll numbers I get from Gallup, which are the best in the business. Much to the chagrin of some of my Republican brethren, I watch Fox News about as much as I watch CNN. I like to get my information from all sources. Since all media inherently contains a bit of bias, it’s the only way to sift through to the hard facts.
If you want to argue the facts with me, I would be more than willing. But to simply say that my analysis is BS only demonstrates a short cut to thinking. It only exacerbates the image of the “Loony Left,” and that serves no one, particularly you.
Cheers!
January 26th, 2006 at 10:51 pm
Ricky I did present the facts, then I called your argument BS. It is BS. Reading comprehension is your friend.
What do you have to say Mikey to Grover Norquist and all the other Radical Rethuglicans who are also against Bush’s illegal domestic spying program? You are all knee-jerk nimnods in love with your illiterate dear leader. You are naive. This country was founded on checks and blanaces. Follow the law or ask congress to tweak it. Instead you give Dear Leader dictatorial power. The man can’t even string a sentence together, you trust him with a spying program?????????
I rather be part of the so-called Bill O’Lie-lly looney left any day than the misogynistic, xenophobic, racist fundamentalists that have your party by the balls.
You are all whacko – Meghan